Comments for enter the pirate http://enterthepirate.wordpress.com A poorly maintained blog of technology Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:23:08 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on Prototype JavaScript framework by Veejay http://enterthepirate.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/prototype-javascript-framework/#comment-12 Veejay Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:23:08 +0000 http://enterthepirate.wordpress.com/?p=22#comment-12 Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation :) Anyway ... nice blog to visit. cheers, Veejay. Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation :) Anyway … nice blog to visit.

cheers, Veejay.

]]> Comment on Prototype JavaScript framework by joshteam http://enterthepirate.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/prototype-javascript-framework/#comment-6 joshteam Fri, 02 May 2008 19:54:38 +0000 http://enterthepirate.wordpress.com/?p=22#comment-6 Haha, I wish I was more affiliated with the core team tbh, they have some pretty smart people (from the ones I've gotten to talk to in #mootools) but I think we can agree to disagree. Both frameworks are very good for the evolution of javascript development. Haha, I wish I was more affiliated with the core team tbh, they have some pretty smart people (from the ones I’ve gotten to talk to in #mootools) but I think we can agree to disagree. Both frameworks are very good for the evolution of javascript development.

]]> Comment on Prototype JavaScript framework by enterthepirate http://enterthepirate.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/prototype-javascript-framework/#comment-5 enterthepirate Fri, 02 May 2008 19:21:15 +0000 http://enterthepirate.wordpress.com/?p=22#comment-5 Ok, one thing I think we both need to get on the same page with is <b>versions.</b> Any post that I've made I've been very specific that I'm talking about mootools 1.11 (the only released version of their framework). Everything that you've cited has to do with their latest beta. I've looked over their documentation for their 1.2 beta and I'm impressed by some of the changes that they've made to Class.js. This syntax is something that I can live with: <code> var Cat = new Class({ Implements: Animal, setName: function(name){ this.name = name } }); </code> You're not on their payroll are you? ;) (I'M KIDDING!) Opinions are like @ssh0les, everybody has one. (And sometimes they change?? ... wait, that makes no sense) I think we'll have to live with each others differing opinions for the moment. You never know, reading the docs for v1.2 and the announcement of a release may have me changing my opinion. Ok, one thing I think we both need to get on the same page with is versions. Any post that I’ve made I’ve been very specific that I’m talking about mootools 1.11 (the only released version of their framework). Everything that you’ve cited has to do with their latest beta.

I’ve looked over their documentation for their 1.2 beta and I’m impressed by some of the changes that they’ve made to Class.js.

This syntax is something that I can live with:


var Cat = new Class({
Implements: Animal,
setName: function(name){
this.name = name
}
});

You’re not on their payroll are you? ;) (I’M KIDDING!) Opinions are like @ssh0les, everybody has one. (And sometimes they change?? … wait, that makes no sense)

I think we’ll have to live with each others differing opinions for the moment. You never know, reading the docs for v1.2 and the announcement of a release may have me changing my opinion.

]]> Comment on Prototype JavaScript framework by joshteam http://enterthepirate.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/prototype-javascript-framework/#comment-4 joshteam Fri, 02 May 2008 18:16:10 +0000 http://enterthepirate.wordpress.com/?p=22#comment-4 I don't want to get into a irrelevant argument of semantics & wording. One could argue that the evolution of all "languages and frameworks" are inspired in one way or another by it's predecessor. In fact, that is, in my opinion one of the core strengths with the internet and especially open source. Innovation over invention. With that being said, the simple components that Moo offers such as inheritance (known as implements) in there docs, physics library built into it, interfaces, and so much more allow programmers from traditional languages to utilize the best practices with little to no transition into the new domain of javascript. This alone is a superior functionality set which puts MooTools as a front runner in JavaScript in terms of "Advanced Usage". This is just one example however of Moo being inspired by "Good Ideas" and taking them to the next step. I challenge you to read more about some of the brilliant, imo, things they are continuing to do to push the boundaries in: http://docs12b.mootools.net/ I don’t want to get into a irrelevant argument of semantics & wording. One could argue that the evolution of all “languages and frameworks” are inspired in one way or another by it’s predecessor. In fact, that is, in my opinion one of the core strengths with the internet and especially open source. Innovation over invention. With that being said, the simple components that Moo offers such as inheritance (known as implements) in there docs, physics library built into it, interfaces, and so much more allow programmers from traditional languages to utilize the best practices with little to no transition into the new domain of javascript.

This alone is a superior functionality set which puts MooTools as a front runner in JavaScript in terms of “Advanced Usage”.

This is just one example however of Moo being inspired by “Good Ideas” and taking them to the next step. I challenge you to read more about some of the brilliant, imo, things they are continuing to do to push the boundaries in: http://docs12b.mootools.net/

]]> Comment on Prototype JavaScript framework by enterthepirate http://enterthepirate.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/prototype-javascript-framework/#comment-3 enterthepirate Fri, 02 May 2008 13:07:51 +0000 http://enterthepirate.wordpress.com/?p=22#comment-3 I'm sure you know exactly what you're talking about, but look at mootools credit for the love of God: "Some functions are inspired by those found in prototype.js http://prototype.conio.net/ © 2005 Sam Stephenson sam [at] conio [dot] net, MIT-style license" Inspired?? We both know what that means. We took a good chunk of Prototype and folded it in to our framework... Until I see mootools drop their class expansion functionality and get onboard with inheritance, I'm going to happily stick with Prototype. I’m sure you know exactly what you’re talking about, but look at mootools credit for the love of God: “Some functions are inspired by those found in prototype.js http://prototype.conio.net/ © 2005 Sam Stephenson sam [at] conio [dot] net, MIT-style license”

Inspired?? We both know what that means. We took a good chunk of Prototype and folded it in to our framework… Until I see mootools drop their class expansion functionality and get onboard with inheritance, I’m going to happily stick with Prototype.

]]> Comment on Prototype JavaScript framework by joshteam http://enterthepirate.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/prototype-javascript-framework/#comment-2 joshteam Fri, 02 May 2008 04:28:23 +0000 http://enterthepirate.wordpress.com/?p=22#comment-2 Sorry, but MooTools 1.2 (trunk) is far superior to prototype from a programming/functionality stand point. Prototype is a nice framework, don't get me wrong, but Moo is a breed i in it's own. I've been playing with MooTools for about 6 months now from the 18 months I've had with Prototype. It was a quick transition :) Sorry, but MooTools 1.2 (trunk) is far superior to prototype from a programming/functionality stand point. Prototype is a nice framework, don’t get me wrong, but Moo is a breed i in it’s own. I’ve been playing with MooTools for about 6 months now from the 18 months I’ve had with Prototype. It was a quick transition :)

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